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Valley Gartersnake (Thamnophis sirtalis fitchi)

Created: November 27th, 2019 - 02:36 PM
Last Modified: June 30th, 2020 - 01:31 AM
Entered by: Brian Hubbs
Record 329112
United States
Merced County
2019-11-22 14:47:00
Visual encounter
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Posted by Brian Hubbs on Jun 30, 2020 at 01:32 AM

Well, after looking at google earth I realized I had it in the wrong county. It's Merced. Dammitt, I lost a county record...

Posted by Brian Hubbs on Jun 30, 2020 at 12:46 AM

A fitchi can have 8 upper labials, and I've seen a lot of fitchi. But, I'll get an opinion from Gary Nafis.

Posted by James Maughn on Jun 29, 2020 at 09:43 PM

Well, Californiaherps.com has T. elegans throughout Santa Clara County. That does sounds pretty far out there, though. My thought was this looks like one of those Diablo/Elegans hybrids that Owen sometimes posts from Grant. You might have him take a look at this one.

Posted by Brian Hubbs on Jun 29, 2020 at 09:36 PM

Jim, are you saying Coast garter or what? This was extreme eastern Santa Clara in the central valley foothills. I don't think any elegans are in that area.

Posted by James Maughn on Jun 25, 2020 at 04:40 PM

Brian, For what it's worth, I think this might be T. elegans. The color seems closer, and I count eight upper labials, with 6 & 7 being higher than wide.

Posted by Brian Hubbs on Dec 19, 2019 at 02:27 PM

LOL I didn't even realize it was a county record. Thanks for pointing that out...

Posted by Brian Hubbs on Dec 19, 2019 at 02:24 PM

Had the right count of labials for fitchi, and I've seen Diablos, and that did not look like one to me...

Posted by Mark Buck on Dec 19, 2019 at 04:46 AM

hmmm... kinda looks like the face of a diablo garter...
then again I've never seen a diablo in person lol, I have seen fitchi though.
congrats on the county record if it is