Sierra Gartersnake (Thamnophis couchii)
Created: June 29th, 2011 - 09:33 PM
Last Modified: December 2nd, 2012 - 07:01 PM Entered by: Brian Hubbs
Record 80914
Last Modified: December 2nd, 2012 - 07:01 PM Entered by: Brian Hubbs
Record 80914
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Country: United States |
State: California |
County: Los Angeles County |
Time: 2011-06-11 16:37:00 |
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Qty: 1 |
Age: Sub-Adult |
Sex: -- |
Method: Visual encounter |
Habitat: pond edge |
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Notes
Possible hybrid with hammondi, but probably not.
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Comments
very cool, i have not explored that area at all, i plan too a little bit this year any tips pointers etc you want to throw my way pm me or email [email protected] , also i posted la county species list to the forum could use your input, thanks.
No problem. I didn't know they were there until we found that one, and most people would assume it was a two-stripe, not knowing the subtle differences in the S. Sierra population. If you check Stebbins you will see that the Sierra Garter is found in the Tehachapis. I was on the south side of the Tehatchapis.
makes sense, i was only questioning it cause its the only one in the database possible you made a mistake? and garys site doesnt really say sierras are close to la county, i am in no way shape or form trying to say it isn't what you say it is. im going through la county database going to post soon, yeah the head does look more like a sierra
Side facial markings and faint stripe. See record 108354 which is from the Sierra foothills in northern Kern county for a comparison...the L.A. county example is brighter, but that's all. It's also from extreme northern L.A. county by Tejon ranch. so, now you're questioning ME? LOL See record 103538 for a Two-striped garter...See, this is why I don't subscribe to the different species for these aquatic garters. They all blend into each other as you go thru the ranges. The southern Sierra garters look a lot like Two-stripes, while the northern Sierra's look more like Oregon garters. I think the couchi species should never have been split into different species. They are all the same snake, just different sub-species.
how is this a sierra garter?